Speaking in a powerful interview about the fraud that has drained Social Security for far too long and how President Trump is taking major action to protect the program, and thus seniors, Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) volunteer Antonio Gracias exposed the “jaw dropping” nature of the perfidious pilfering of America’s entitlement program.

As background, though DOGE is cutting various programs and contracts as it wages war on waste and fraud, much of that is small fries compared to the potentially trillions of dollars of waste and fraud involved with the major entitlement programs like Social Security and Medicaid. To correct that and save the budget, DOGE has been leaving heavily into cleaning fraud out of Social Security and other programs, and has appeared to find major issues as it does so.

Speaking about the matter to Steve Doocy on “Fox & Friends” on Wednesday, April 2, DOGE volunteer and CEO Antonio Gracias noted that President Donald Trump has been one of the leading figures in giving DOGE what it needs to investigate fraud in and save Social Security.

He said, speaking about the president’s role in fighting fraud in Social Security to save the program from the many fraudsters trying to bleed it dry for personal benefit, “None of this would have happened without President Trump.” He continued, “President Trump had the courage to allow us to go across databases. He signed an executive order. It’s never been done before, where agencies could talk to each other and databases could talk with each other.”

Continuing, he explained that President Trump’s help has been hugely beneficial and took a great degree of courage, saying, “That allowed us to connect all this data, to find these people across the system, across the benefit system, all the way to the voting records. It really took a lot of courage.”

Speaking about the massive number of illegal immigrants who were given Social Security numbers, Gracias told Doocy, “We found that there were just about five-plus million of them that came to the country as illegals, were given various forms of parole or allowing [in] the country, and they got through an automatic system, Social Security numbers, so they could get into our benefit systems.”

Continuing, he noted that those illegal immigrants not only had access to benefit programs, but were voting in American elections. He said, “And we tracked that through and found that they were on benefit programs. And just because we were curious, we then looked to see if they were on the voter rolls, and we found in a handful of cooperative states that there were thousands of them on the voter rolls and that many of them had voted.”

Further, he explained how many billions of dollars DOGE has saved Americans even as it does preliminary investigations into the fraud draining Social Security. He said, “It’s in the billions. You saw the fraud on the phone lines itself. That was about $1.5 billion, and I would guess with Social Security already, we’re north of $10 billion.”

Watch Gracias here: